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]]> By: isman http://finally-woken.com/2008/02/what-a-difference-a-nationality-made-3/#comment-375 isman Wed, 05 Mar 2008 06:44:00 +0000 http://finally-woken.com/?p=108#comment-375 Johnorford: what's the logic of not being allowed to own property if your husband is foreign?<br/><br/>isman: That is like asking a guy who just ignited his fart, "What were you thinking?" <br/><br/>Nothing. <br/><br/>Same thing. That law isn't based on any kind of human logic. It's some kind of Indonesian bureaucracy logic. (Especially the part where they can take over the property when the foreign spouse passed away.) Johnorford: what’s the logic of not being allowed to own property if your husband is foreign?

isman: That is like asking a guy who just ignited his fart, “What were you thinking?”

Nothing.

Same thing. That law isn’t based on any kind of human logic. It’s some kind of Indonesian bureaucracy logic. (Especially the part where they can take over the property when the foreign spouse passed away.)

]]> By: Memento http://finally-woken.com/2008/02/what-a-difference-a-nationality-made-3/#comment-374 Memento Tue, 04 Mar 2008 13:44:00 +0000 http://finally-woken.com/?p=108#comment-374 i know the feeling about the hassle of applying a schengen visa. if it weren't that complicated, i probably would've spent one too many impulsive weekends in belgium or france thanks to the eurostar! :p<br/><br/>anyhoo, if you have a temporary residence visa (UK leave to remain or student visa, NOT a UK tourist visa), you don't need a visa to go to Switzerland, so long as your UK visa & passport is still valid for 6 months after the departure date. <br/>i went to zurich a couple of years ago sans a swiss visa - no questions asked at both UK and swiss immigrations.<br/><br/>but i heard from a friend who lives in switzerland that the country is joining the schengen next year or some time in the near future, so you might wanna check with the swiss consulate before you book anything. wish you a nice easter break! :) i know the feeling about the hassle of applying a schengen visa. if it weren’t that complicated, i probably would’ve spent one too many impulsive weekends in belgium or france thanks to the eurostar! :p

anyhoo, if you have a temporary residence visa (UK leave to remain or student visa, NOT a UK tourist visa), you don’t need a visa to go to Switzerland, so long as your UK visa & passport is still valid for 6 months after the departure date.
i went to zurich a couple of years ago sans a swiss visa – no questions asked at both UK and swiss immigrations.

but i heard from a friend who lives in switzerland that the country is joining the schengen next year or some time in the near future, so you might wanna check with the swiss consulate before you book anything. wish you a nice easter break! :)

]]> By: Elyani http://finally-woken.com/2008/02/what-a-difference-a-nationality-made-3/#comment-373 Elyani Tue, 04 Mar 2008 06:23:00 +0000 http://finally-woken.com/?p=108#comment-373 My sister gave up her Indonesian citizenship three years ago and now is holding a Singapore passport. One of her reason is she can apply for a Singapore International Passport which has very little travel restrictions around the world. And she can have more subsidy in health matter. My sister gave up her Indonesian citizenship three years ago and now is holding a Singapore passport. One of her reason is she can apply for a Singapore International Passport which has very little travel restrictions around the world. And she can have more subsidy in health matter.

]]> By: Finally Woken http://finally-woken.com/2008/02/what-a-difference-a-nationality-made-3/#comment-372 Finally Woken Mon, 03 Mar 2008 19:13:00 +0000 http://finally-woken.com/?p=108#comment-372 @John: you're right. I looked up those 24 countries listed in Schengen and I thought I saw Ireland on the list (actually I saw Iceland!!). <br/><br/>Anyway, Indonesians do need a visa to (Southern) Ireland (click <a HREF="http://www.inis.gov.ie/en/INIS/Pages/WP07000016" REL="nofollow" rel="nofollow">here</a>). Funnily (sadly) enough, our beloved neighbors - Singapore, Malaysia, Brunei - don't need visa. Aaarrghhh.... @John: you’re right. I looked up those 24 countries listed in Schengen and I thought I saw Ireland on the list (actually I saw Iceland!!).

Anyway, Indonesians do need a visa to (Southern) Ireland (click here). Funnily (sadly) enough, our beloved neighbors – Singapore, Malaysia, Brunei – don’t need visa. Aaarrghhh….

]]> By: johnorford http://finally-woken.com/2008/02/what-a-difference-a-nationality-made-3/#comment-371 johnorford Mon, 03 Mar 2008 17:32:00 +0000 http://finally-woken.com/?p=108#comment-371 ireland isn't part of schengen, but has had a similar agreement with the uk since forever.<br/><br/><a HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Agreement" REL="nofollow" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Agreement</a><br/><br/>but mayb u'r still not allowed tho... ireland isn’t part of schengen, but has had a similar agreement with the uk since forever.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Agreement

but mayb u’r still not allowed tho…

]]> By: mulia http://finally-woken.com/2008/02/what-a-difference-a-nationality-made-3/#comment-370 mulia Sun, 02 Mar 2008 11:31:00 +0000 http://finally-woken.com/?p=108#comment-370 Mba, i share your upset feelings and i cant say much about the nationality thing. a friend told me that it is such a pitty when indonesian giving up their nationality for hollidays. but IMHO, you are not giving up ur nationality within your heart. you are giving up on world beureu-crazy on handling such matters. i would rather respect people who have change their passport but still feel Indonesian rather than Indonesian who's all the time mocking his or her nation.<br/><br/>(well i do too mocking my government but not all the time :d).<br/><br/>so do what u believe it's the best!<br/><br/>ps: u dont need visa to enter Maroko and one other country in Latin America..i forgot what..check in Projectvisa.org.<br/>and you know..Malaysian dont need visa to many places around the world..i guess this is the risk for being a country-mate of many terorists ..Enjoy :) Mba, i share your upset feelings and i cant say much about the nationality thing. a friend told me that it is such a pitty when indonesian giving up their nationality for hollidays. but IMHO, you are not giving up ur nationality within your heart. you are giving up on world beureu-crazy on handling such matters. i would rather respect people who have change their passport but still feel Indonesian rather than Indonesian who’s all the time mocking his or her nation.

(well i do too mocking my government but not all the time :d).

so do what u believe it’s the best!

ps: u dont need visa to enter Maroko and one other country in Latin America..i forgot what..check in Projectvisa.org.
and you know..Malaysian dont need visa to many places around the world..i guess this is the risk for being a country-mate of many terorists ..Enjoy :)

]]> By: colson http://finally-woken.com/2008/02/what-a-difference-a-nationality-made-3/#comment-369 colson Sun, 02 Mar 2008 09:01:00 +0000 http://finally-woken.com/?p=108#comment-369 Ever since Europe changed into Fortress Europe, it's like non western foreigners have to beg to enter this part of the world.<br/><br/>My two Indonesian daughters in law had to go through a lot of humiliating bureaucratic red tape to even get the opportunity to join their Dutch husbands.<br/><br/>European fear and xenophobia are to blame. Not a Indonesian passport. Ever since Europe changed into Fortress Europe, it’s like non western foreigners have to beg to enter this part of the world.

My two Indonesian daughters in law had to go through a lot of humiliating bureaucratic red tape to even get the opportunity to join their Dutch husbands.

European fear and xenophobia are to blame. Not a Indonesian passport.

]]> By: Finally Woken http://finally-woken.com/2008/02/what-a-difference-a-nationality-made-3/#comment-368 Finally Woken Sun, 02 Mar 2008 08:10:00 +0000 http://finally-woken.com/?p=108#comment-368 @John: For Southern Ireland, Indonesian needs a visa which is part of Schengen scheme that covers 24 countries. <br/><br/>You might want to contact Mrs. Amaliya Lerrigo to buy a booklet (actually it's a book, a big, thick one!) about mixed-marriage. You can buy it at <a HREF="http://www.srikandi.org" REL="nofollow" rel="nofollow">Srikandi</a> office or contact Ibu Amaliya at +628176025665. Last year it cost Rp 175,000, not sure for now. @John: For Southern Ireland, Indonesian needs a visa which is part of Schengen scheme that covers 24 countries.

You might want to contact Mrs. Amaliya Lerrigo to buy a booklet (actually it’s a book, a big, thick one!) about mixed-marriage. You can buy it at Srikandi office or contact Ibu Amaliya at +628176025665. Last year it cost Rp 175,000, not sure for now.

]]> By: Anilú http://finally-woken.com/2008/02/what-a-difference-a-nationality-made-3/#comment-367 Anilú Sat, 01 Mar 2008 11:07:00 +0000 http://finally-woken.com/?p=108#comment-367 Good news! My indian boyfriend has the same problem and we know he doesn't need a visa to go to Switzerland so give it a try.<br/>Sorry but regarding Ireland, you do need a visa to go to Dublin but not to Belfast which is part of the UK. Good news! My indian boyfriend has the same problem and we know he doesn’t need a visa to go to Switzerland so give it a try.
Sorry but regarding Ireland, you do need a visa to go to Dublin but not to Belfast which is part of the UK.

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