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		<title>By: Calvin</title>
		<link>http://finally-woken.com/2008/12/on-cards/#comment-2592</link>
		<dc:creator>Calvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 05:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey there wonderful publish , Appreciate your giving this information</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey there wonderful publish , Appreciate your giving this information</p>
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		<title>By: Spoon Rest ·</title>
		<link>http://finally-woken.com/2008/12/on-cards/#comment-2282</link>
		<dc:creator>Spoon Rest ·</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Nov 2010 19:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i love to receive birthday cards specially if they are custom built birthday cards `.~</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i love to receive birthday cards specially if they are custom built birthday cards `.~</p>
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		<title>By: Finally Woken</title>
		<link>http://finally-woken.com/2008/12/on-cards/#comment-1448</link>
		<dc:creator>Finally Woken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 08:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sonya: I am like you now, the amount of cards I send this year is less than last year. And I know for sure next year will be much less. It’s a bit difficult though since it’s not my nature, but what I have done is not cost efficient and not appreciated so why bother?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sonya: I am like you now, the amount of cards I send this year is less than last year. And I know for sure next year will be much less. It’s a bit difficult though since it’s not my nature, but what I have done is not cost efficient and not appreciated so why bother?</p>
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		<title>By: Sonya</title>
		<link>http://finally-woken.com/2008/12/on-cards/#comment-1447</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m an american living in the netherlands for almost 2 years now and it&#039;s like everyone back home has forgotten about me. I make my own cards and send them to friends back home and it isnt cheap..last year I spent 45 euros shipping off cards and small packages..wat did I get back? e-cards that were sent as a mass e-mail or a card here and there.  I no longer feel in the loop with things. It&#039;s hard enough living in another country but when you dont even have your friends from back home to help you along,it makes everything seem that much harder. I paid attention this year though and the amount of cards I sent off was less than half...alot of them can&#039;t handle me living away..it&#039;s to much work to keep a long distance friendship going I was told.
  So I do understand where you are coming from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m an american living in the netherlands for almost 2 years now and it&#8217;s like everyone back home has forgotten about me. I make my own cards and send them to friends back home and it isnt cheap..last year I spent 45 euros shipping off cards and small packages..wat did I get back? e-cards that were sent as a mass e-mail or a card here and there.  I no longer feel in the loop with things. It&#8217;s hard enough living in another country but when you dont even have your friends from back home to help you along,it makes everything seem that much harder. I paid attention this year though and the amount of cards I sent off was less than half&#8230;alot of them can&#8217;t handle me living away..it&#8217;s to much work to keep a long distance friendship going I was told.<br />
  So I do understand where you are coming from.</p>
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		<title>By: Finally Woken</title>
		<link>http://finally-woken.com/2008/12/on-cards/#comment-1446</link>
		<dc:creator>Finally Woken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 07:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Parvita: You and I are talking about the same thing from different angle. My Dutch friend and I both are expats and we are faced by the possibility of spending a fortune just to keep in touch with our friends and relatives at our home country. But those who are left do not think it is necessary to do the same thing, or do not take extra effort to keep in touch with us, and think it is perfectly normal for us to spend more for them than the vice versa.

To be perfectly honest the cost of cards and postal charge here also kill me, but I do it anyway because I love my friends. And (unfortunately), beside yearly Christmas &amp; Ied, there&#039;s always someone&#039;s birthday or someone&#039;s baby was just born. And on top of the card and gift, I still have to buy the packaging and pay for the postal charge, which now doesn&#039;t only measure the cost by weight but also by size. So the bigger the more expensive. And to talk about wasting money for fuel, you know how expensive the petrol here ( GBP 0.90/litre), &lt;em&gt;and&lt;/em&gt; the parking fee is expensive too (GBP 2.50/2 hours). So to save some penny, I either have to walk or to take the bus. It takes extra will to do it, especially when it was pouring rain or windy cold.

When I was in Indonesia, even though it was expensive for me, I still did send cards and gifts to my friends abroad or outside Jakarta. Those are the friends whom I cannot see in person. Those who were around me would have gotten their gift when I saw them, of course. Just like when you said you &lt;em&gt;give&lt;/em&gt;, not &lt;em&gt;send&lt;/em&gt;. If I was too busy I thankfully could ask my company driver or courier to help me posting the cards or packages (with extra tip). If it&#039;s valuable I usually went to RPX (national courier for DHL) or DHL in Kuningan. However, when I now live in a different place from my friends, those who receive the cards and gifts do not do the same thing with millions of reasons which I think are lame as there&#039;s a will, there&#039;s a way. And I get SMS and e-cards, as a return of cards and gifts :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Parvita: You and I are talking about the same thing from different angle. My Dutch friend and I both are expats and we are faced by the possibility of spending a fortune just to keep in touch with our friends and relatives at our home country. But those who are left do not think it is necessary to do the same thing, or do not take extra effort to keep in touch with us, and think it is perfectly normal for us to spend more for them than the vice versa.</p>
<p>To be perfectly honest the cost of cards and postal charge here also kill me, but I do it anyway because I love my friends. And (unfortunately), beside yearly Christmas &#038; Ied, there&#8217;s always someone&#8217;s birthday or someone&#8217;s baby was just born. And on top of the card and gift, I still have to buy the packaging and pay for the postal charge, which now doesn&#8217;t only measure the cost by weight but also by size. So the bigger the more expensive. And to talk about wasting money for fuel, you know how expensive the petrol here ( GBP 0.90/litre), <em>and</em> the parking fee is expensive too (GBP 2.50/2 hours). So to save some penny, I either have to walk or to take the bus. It takes extra will to do it, especially when it was pouring rain or windy cold.</p>
<p>When I was in Indonesia, even though it was expensive for me, I still did send cards and gifts to my friends abroad or outside Jakarta. Those are the friends whom I cannot see in person. Those who were around me would have gotten their gift when I saw them, of course. Just like when you said you <em>give</em>, not <em>send</em>. If I was too busy I thankfully could ask my company driver or courier to help me posting the cards or packages (with extra tip). If it&#8217;s valuable I usually went to RPX (national courier for DHL) or DHL in Kuningan. However, when I now live in a different place from my friends, those who receive the cards and gifts do not do the same thing with millions of reasons which I think are lame as there&#8217;s a will, there&#8217;s a way. And I get SMS and e-cards, as a return of cards and gifts <img src='http://finally-woken.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: parvita</title>
		<link>http://finally-woken.com/2008/12/on-cards/#comment-1445</link>
		<dc:creator>parvita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 01:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Anita, nothing against you, but a bit of a criticizm for those who think Indonesians are wierd because they don&#039;t send cards.  We meet instead (which is another waste of fuel but hey, it&#039;s worth it if they are your good relatives and good friends, right?).

Unfortunately, the recycled paper thingy are pricy here and not too easy to find, same for those that are sponsored by UN.  Add up queuing and gasoline plus the mail system here just doesn&#039;t work out like in the west, e-card and sms is the safest and quickest, efficient way of showing that we care.  With the sms and e-mail, those who don&#039;t have the luxury of time and space communicate more during the festives.  It&#039;s just the matter of different ways of doing things.

ps: you know how costly it is for average Indonesians to send cards abroad, right?  I mean, if one uses the economic logic, e-cards versus conventional card...for me, it&#039;s the thought that counts :)

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;parvitas last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://parvita.wordpress.com/2008/12/16/aging-when-do-we-just-accept-it-im-40-single-and-living-in-jakarta-part-10/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Aging: When do we just accept it? (I’m 40, single and living in Jakarta part 10)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Anita, nothing against you, but a bit of a criticizm for those who think Indonesians are wierd because they don&#8217;t send cards.  We meet instead (which is another waste of fuel but hey, it&#8217;s worth it if they are your good relatives and good friends, right?).</p>
<p>Unfortunately, the recycled paper thingy are pricy here and not too easy to find, same for those that are sponsored by UN.  Add up queuing and gasoline plus the mail system here just doesn&#8217;t work out like in the west, e-card and sms is the safest and quickest, efficient way of showing that we care.  With the sms and e-mail, those who don&#8217;t have the luxury of time and space communicate more during the festives.  It&#8217;s just the matter of different ways of doing things.</p>
<p>ps: you know how costly it is for average Indonesians to send cards abroad, right?  I mean, if one uses the economic logic, e-cards versus conventional card&#8230;for me, it&#8217;s the thought that counts <img src='http://finally-woken.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><abbr><em><abbr><em>parvitas last blog post..<a href="http://parvita.wordpress.com/2008/12/16/aging-when-do-we-just-accept-it-im-40-single-and-living-in-jakarta-part-10/" rel="nofollow">Aging: When do we just accept it? (I’m 40, single and living in Jakarta part 10)</a></em></abbr></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Finally Woken</title>
		<link>http://finally-woken.com/2008/12/on-cards/#comment-1444</link>
		<dc:creator>Finally Woken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 16:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Parvita: if you&#039;re the kind of human race who concerns about the green planet, there&#039;s an option for recycled papers, which are heavily promoted here. Those which are produced by charity also a big hit.

To &lt;em&gt;GIVE&lt;/em&gt; a birthday present is only practical if you live in the same city, right? I don&#039;t have such luxury anymore so I &lt;em&gt;have to SEND&lt;/em&gt; it, which is quite costly as well - but never mind, as long as my friends can receive their gift on their birthdays.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Parvita: if you&#8217;re the kind of human race who concerns about the green planet, there&#8217;s an option for recycled papers, which are heavily promoted here. Those which are produced by charity also a big hit.</p>
<p>To <em>GIVE</em> a birthday present is only practical if you live in the same city, right? I don&#8217;t have such luxury anymore so I <em>have to SEND</em> it, which is quite costly as well &#8211; but never mind, as long as my friends can receive their gift on their birthdays.</p>
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		<title>By: parvita</title>
		<link>http://finally-woken.com/2008/12/on-cards/#comment-1443</link>
		<dc:creator>parvita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 16:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m one of those who doesn&#039;t send cards anymore.  I think I cover it all though.  For families in Jakarta, we visit and gather so no need for cards.  For relatives outside Jakarta, I give them a call, so better communication than cards.  For my gang bang or network, halal bihalal gatherings.  We meet, instead of sending cards.  Which, I think, is more meaningful, seeing for myself how, especially, my aunts and uncles, are doing.  I don&#039;t mind getting only emails, too.  That already shows that I&#039;m in their mind.

Exception for birthdays, for those who are in my inner circle, I give them birthday presents WITH a card. Note: GIVE, not SEND.

On top of that, with email, SMS and phone calls, don&#039;t you think we save the forests?  Isn&#039;t it a bit ironic, when people from the west promote &quot;save energy, save the planet, save the forest etc&quot;, yet there are tons of papers wasted during Christmas for the card-sending tradition, which, I sense, is still a big deal in the west?  And where do those paper come from?  Where are the trees chopped from?   Isn&#039;t Borneo forests  one of those that Indonesians and other environment activists around the world trying to save?

I guess I&#039;m just a practical gal.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;parvitas last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://parvita.wordpress.com/2008/12/16/aging-when-do-we-just-accept-it-im-40-single-and-living-in-jakarta-part-10/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Aging: When do we just accept it? (I’m 40, single and living in Jakarta part 10)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m one of those who doesn&#8217;t send cards anymore.  I think I cover it all though.  For families in Jakarta, we visit and gather so no need for cards.  For relatives outside Jakarta, I give them a call, so better communication than cards.  For my gang bang or network, halal bihalal gatherings.  We meet, instead of sending cards.  Which, I think, is more meaningful, seeing for myself how, especially, my aunts and uncles, are doing.  I don&#8217;t mind getting only emails, too.  That already shows that I&#8217;m in their mind.</p>
<p>Exception for birthdays, for those who are in my inner circle, I give them birthday presents WITH a card. Note: GIVE, not SEND.</p>
<p>On top of that, with email, SMS and phone calls, don&#8217;t you think we save the forests?  Isn&#8217;t it a bit ironic, when people from the west promote &#8220;save energy, save the planet, save the forest etc&#8221;, yet there are tons of papers wasted during Christmas for the card-sending tradition, which, I sense, is still a big deal in the west?  And where do those paper come from?  Where are the trees chopped from?   Isn&#8217;t Borneo forests  one of those that Indonesians and other environment activists around the world trying to save?</p>
<p>I guess I&#8217;m just a practical gal.</p>
<p><abbr><em><abbr><em>parvitas last blog post..<a href="http://parvita.wordpress.com/2008/12/16/aging-when-do-we-just-accept-it-im-40-single-and-living-in-jakarta-part-10/" rel="nofollow">Aging: When do we just accept it? (I’m 40, single and living in Jakarta part 10)</a></em></abbr></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Finally Woken</title>
		<link>http://finally-woken.com/2008/12/on-cards/#comment-1442</link>
		<dc:creator>Finally Woken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 08:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Diny: Aren&#039;t we all excited every time we  see our mailbox is filled with greeting cards? Those square little things warm our hearts instantly. I do (free) hallmark e-card too, by the way :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Diny: Aren&#8217;t we all excited every time we  see our mailbox is filled with greeting cards? Those square little things warm our hearts instantly. I do (free) hallmark e-card too, by the way <img src='http://finally-woken.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Diny</title>
		<link>http://finally-woken.com/2008/12/on-cards/#comment-1441</link>
		<dc:creator>Diny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think e-card is fine, especially if you took the picture yourself or created it yourself. But hey... I&#039;m a cheap-o. I sent ecards for free from sites such as Hallmark [dot] com and enjoyed receiving any.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Dinys last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://accordingtod.wordpress.com/2008/12/16/drama-of-the-year-vacation-gone-wild-part-1/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Drama of the Year (Vacation Gone Wild) - Part 1&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think e-card is fine, especially if you took the picture yourself or created it yourself. But hey&#8230; I&#8217;m a cheap-o. I sent ecards for free from sites such as Hallmark [dot] com and enjoyed receiving any.</p>
<p><abbr><em><abbr><em>Dinys last blog post..<a href="http://accordingtod.wordpress.com/2008/12/16/drama-of-the-year-vacation-gone-wild-part-1/" rel="nofollow">Drama of the Year (Vacation Gone Wild) &#8211; Part 1</a></em></abbr></em></abbr></p>
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